Tissie Chan I Ep #17 | Adjusting Exercise Intensity for your Body Type

fitness for your body type using yogic and ayurvedic principles we hope you enjoyed this episode it’d just be interesting it’d be interesting to know like how do you with with your background in yoga and like fitness right how do you approach like fitness because because of your knowledge and yoga which is interesting because i got into crossfit in a sense because of yoga and what i perceive that i lack um because yoga is obviously a much softer type of activity and i don’t want to call it a sport or exercise because it’s not but um i’ve been doing it for years and i realized that i’m really good at doing things soft and slow but i was pretty [ __ ] at doing things hard and fast um and even like because i mean i did sports when i was a kid a lot of sports i’ve always been into it but i um was always more of a endurance athlete so cross-country running or things that basically it required me to go kind of like steady for a long time um so crossfit really challenged me in being able to do something short sharp hard fast you know um so it was kind of like trying to plug holes in what i perceived in my fitness which is that i think it’s actually a really important thing to be able to you know turn it up but also turn it down and most people come at it the other way around they kind of go hard and fast and they need to learn to slow down but um for me it was about understanding how to be explosive i don’t know if that answers your question but that’s my answer no that’s really interesting actually i never looked at it the in the reverse i i’m probably the majority who think of like how do i turn it up uh because maybe i feel more like complacent with my my approach of a fitness right um but that could be also because um i don’t i like you know from i’m familiar with like ayurveda right so i know that my body type is more kapha and so i recognize that movement is something that is so critical like essential for my day-to-day well-being and so uh having workouts that like push me challenge me uh really kind of trickle down in the impact in my life my daily behaviors but having things that are a bit more slow and and complacent can actually reinforce or re-emphasize the fact that oh i am already like kind of sluggish in nature or i wouldn’t use sluggish as you know in the actual definition but you know i’m sorry yeah exactly i like to like take it easy like i only would push myself if other people are around me pushing themselves too like i wouldn’t necessarily go out of my way to push myself i understand um does that resonate with you or goonie you know what i oh i’m sorry i’ll go ahead no you go go ahead oh well yeah for me i feel like i have both extremes it’s like i i really really like to relax and chill but i also really enjoy pushing so and that’s something i think i discovered through crossfit is that i have this ability to just really grind that i i don’t know if i knew about or not um not consciously anyway so that was a cool discovery i i guess for me it’s because my is uh pitta and vata i actually revolve towards more like high intensity like cardio i just find it’s more soothing but i actually should practice more um according to like our past conversations with different practitioners is that i should do a bit more yoga and um and i try i try but the thing at some point i’m just like can can we get some action here but yeah what i picked up on something you said to see is you didn’t want to label yoga as work like a workout or a fitness activity um and i think that’s an interesting kind of um way to go about it because today i think a lot of people see yoga as you know just about being flexible you know downward dog and they have like a very they see like a stretching exercise um do you want to give a bit more light on on what the side of yoga that people might not necessarily the most you know general public might not necessarily know so this is actually a topic i’m very passionate about because i learned in a strong traditional lineage whereby my teacher’s teacher was krishnacharia’s son so krishmacharya being the father of modern yoga so if you’ve done yoga you’ve basically been taught indirectly by krishnamacharya um and because of that strong lineage it’s always been passed down to me how much it’s not um a sport or a exercise or just a physical activity the philosophy um being the biggest most important underlying base to everything that we do and i think that’s how number one you need to think about it it’s a philosophy 100 it’s a school of thought it has the same roots as hinduism it’s a orthodox uh vedantic school of thought and there’s six of them one of them being um kind of what what would be hinduism now which is um uh manza is it my manager um because they had different names then and then yoga which is actually um because there’s a confusion as well if yoga is hinduism or part of hinduism and the answer is actually no it’s not because it’s not a religion and if you understand the difference between the six um orthodox schools then you understand that um yoga is actually part almost of this um rational kind of school of thought where it’s aligned with something called sampier samkia school of thought and yoga belong together and they um they believe in this dualistic type of philosophy which is really interesting so this is all the stuff that should inform how you practice your yoga or at least be a filter through which i understand what you’re doing but most people wouldn’t you understand probably the words coming out my mouth who are yoga teachers so yeah it’s not not very wildly taught widely taught or understood but what is the direct translation of yoga because i think that that also kind of contributes to understanding the difference so there’s a few different like um meanings or translations or definitions one of the most common ones is yolk to yoke is to like link or um connect things um to like a union type thing um but that you’ll find in different texts different references and different definitions so there’s quite a lot of ways that you can look at it right if you’re looking something else more specific that’s great yeah and and um like okay so going back to to your explanation about how uh it’s really a philosophy right um and you know in in the yogic philosophy uh i mean that is there is there i guess does it talk about you know how you should practice uh yoga or in a certain way for certain types of uh body types or you know how do you apply apply that philosophy for fitness in that sense right so it doesn’t necessarily talk about you should in in yoga texts because ayurveda and yoga are different things so we we shouldn’t confuse the two they are very complementary and i did study them alongside each other um to help inform because yoga therapy is like re ayurveda is very useful to yoga therapy but um in terms of like classical yoga text they know i don’t i can’t call to mind anything that says like if you have this body type you should do x y and z it’s more about your mind type so where you are at mentally but dosha pertains to your mental state as well so you can actually have a different physical dosa to a mental dosha so some people may be like very kappa in their um bodies but they’re very pitter in their mouth and the very vata in their minds so um it really talks more about okay so if this is where you are at men’s league this is the kind of approach you’re going to need and if this is where you’re at mentally then etc it goes on and on um and you wanted to know how that pertains to sport right to fitness yeah for fitness so obviously with fitness if we’re healthy sorry health okay uh yeah i mean according to ayurveda uh you should shape your whole lifestyle according to your personal unique constitution and yes you have the three categories but everybody is completely unique in the way that they um fit those doshas so most people have two predominant doshes where they’ll be like uh guna you said uh pit zavata right and tash i believe your kappa pitta and i’m pitter kappa but some people are try doshik which is more rare but some people are they tend to be the most like easy like healthy people because they’ve got quite a balance and some people just have really one there’s a huge predominance but within that even if you’ve got the same two things that predominant someone else they’ll still be expressed completely uniquely within you like i said there’s the mental side of it as well so that plays a massive role um so yeah you i mean i remember my teacher once saying like yeah if you’re pitter even things down to the bristles on your toothbrush should be soft because you’re such you know like you’re a hard personality so you need software everywhere um that is that’s damaged yeah and that’s really like it’s yeah very specific and so if you want to go to that detail then really every every facet of your life and every element in every facet is going to be which is a big challenge especially as a pita vata person because our world our modern world is very appetizing right it’s not very kappa so um it’s actually very hard to surround yourself with things that would bring balance to you when you have that kind of imbalance already and usually how do you get to so say you have a client that comes to you and kind of seeks your advice for fitness how do you approach um kind of helping them in that journey right so the most important thing is really understanding what they want and what they need and the balance between those two things some people will really be at odds with what they want and what they need so they’ll want something that’s really bad for them and other people it’s quite aligned so um first of all it’s just assessing what’s the distance between those two things um because you always have to meet people where they are for example with the fact that you really find it a bit difficult to get into more kappa kind of practices well the thing is that you actually need to meet your energy so you probably need to start with a practice that is actually quite physical and then start to wind it down and thereby you’ll tether your mind you’ll get into it and you’ll be able to ease into it rather than actually forcing yourself into doing stillness or slowness or whatever it is because funnily enough even though it’s soft that actually is could be seen as a form of himself which means violent um because you’re forcing yourself to be still so it’s actually going against your nature so you need to work with people’s nature you need to work with their wants and their desires so you need to match what’s being presented to you so i have to give you a little bit of what you want this is if it’s at odds of what you need and then i need to slowly step by step which in yoga is called vinyasa crema this is where vinyasa yoga comes from uh vinyasa kramer means basically appropriate steps so i need to put the appropriate steps in place to then meet my goal or our goal um working together and it can be like a really really long process and you have like your short-term goals and your short-term steps and then you have your like really long-term goals and your long-term steps and you don’t know if you’ll ever meet those long-term goals but it’s you know with in mind that you’re always going to be working towards it and it may not be linear but you’re still on that like track and that progress yeah something to look up for and up to um and when you you were saying what’s not sometimes it’s there’s not something good for them what defines something that is not right for them so i’m obviously that’s according to my perception of what i see in front of me so like 99 of being a good therapist in yoga at least and i’d say probably other therapies as well is being a good observer you need to be able to know what is objectively in front of you and what may be your projection and what may be um just misinterpretation so you know in yoga understanding what like your mind and yoga is seen as this filter so you have your consciousness you have your mind and you then have the object in front of you so to see clearly you need to be on to have like a clear window your mind needs to be a clear window without all the the [ __ ] that most people get in the way of seeing clearly like their future projections their memory and all that stuff that can cloud what’s actually in front of them so it’s almost like a meditation in itself uh working with a client when you’re really really doing well with a client it’s like almost like a it’s smarties integration i’ve integrated with that client so i actually if you have integrated a client you fully understand them like everything and it may not even be something you can verbalize but you just get a feeling for what it’s like to be inside that person’s body and it’s only very rarely happened like in a very deep way for me where i’ve really got this clarity of like whoa that’s who that person is and and knowing 100 otherwise you know i’m looking for you know a lot more like science and symptoms so they tell me like oh well i get really hot when i do this or you know all the stuff that you would tell like a doctor they’re like signs and symptoms so that’s all like information gathering uh and then there’s just what i can observe um how they speak how they um like move how they breathe like all of this is basically like ancient traditional medicine before we had machines right we couldn’t we couldn’t plug them into a machine and measure stuff or do tests and and all that kind of thing so it’s like medicine was the art of observation how well can i read that person’s pulse how well can i feel what’s going on in each organ because you know there’s pulse taking in ayurveda and in yoga as well um so yeah that’s that’s kind of how you do it yeah i was gonna say that that’s really like fascinating um i remember when i came to you uh uh to see for my breathing uh to improve my breathing um because i was doing i i was struggling i always have sinus issues right and so rooney knows all about this when i speak to her and that little although i wasn’t consistent with my my practice uh coming out of that session with you i remember like practicing it for the first two weeks and seeing such a huge difference in the way i like breathe or even even in the mornings when i wake up like realizing like oh my god i can actually breathe and i don’t feel like this blockage and how much of a difference in quality of like my day-to-day living it made um it’s just amazing to see the connection where you know a simple thing like your breath your breath work um can really make a huge difference um shall we give shall we go through kind of how you would um approach someone who has a specific kind of generalizing body types um and and kind of how would you approach them and so that uh of course it will never replace having like a one-on-one conversation with a consultant or therapist but to give like cues for people um shall we kind of go through those different body types and how you would approach them yeah sure um so i mean if we just use the ayurvedic framework of um dosha that’s probably the easiest way to do it and we can do that so you’ve got um your listeners may already know this if they listen to your podcast but your three types right so mata kappa and twitter and maybe i can just say that how that loosely links to yoga because in yoga you have three gooners they are tannas rajas and tactic so satva loosely aligns with pitta and rajas loosely alliance with vata and thanos loosely aligns with um kappa but it’s not it’s not exactly the same so for anyone that’s kind of a yoga buff that’s how they kind of align with each other um so the the kind of things that you the stereotypical things that you hear about kappa is that kappa tend to be more easy going in nature they’re steady they’re stubborn people they can be consistent um they gain weight and muscle mass more easily they can tend to be shorter as well as bigger have big features big beautiful eyes big lips big boobs hey our society really like uh does so much to like uh like almost shame kappa body types but they’re the most enduring they’re the healthiest by a line like you want to be kappa like they’re awesome so you could you could see that it’s coming from a canva person oh yeah i was i mean i’ve got pizza with me but i like i’m like i don’t want to identify with my pizza like i’m totally bitter at all but um yeah it’s so interesting that you say that like i always want to disassociate from being kapha but i know that there’s so many good qualities but i want to like because i’m always surrounded by a lot of pitta people in my especially my family they just like they shame you for being a cough not not knowing that you’re talking about that but they’re always shaming those qualities yes and they’re like oh you need to be like more fast you need to be this you need to be that like is it chop chop chop you know like oh yeah everyone could do with some kind of steady consistency in their lives and that’s capital which is awesome it’s an awesome quality actually like i remember one teacher to say he was like uh slightly on the bigger side so i think he was a little biased as well but he was like all these modern day yogis they’re all vatas you need to be a kappa to be a good yoga teacher i was like dumb straight it was like etsy skinny white girls i love it i love it yeah so yeah and then the i’ll i’ll carry on in the description otherwise we’ll go on from a tangent but um then then the pizza which uh it’s kind of in the middle uh they neither gain weight easily then it’ll lose weight easily they’re kind of like a medium build generally um they tend to have sharp penetrating gaze um a sharp intellect very quick um anger easily good at pushing things through people of action and very judgmental um but you know like somewhat pitta here so i know but i’m looking at you what is this supposed to mean like really who’s getting angry like quickly i think all of us here yeah yeah oh yeah love the anger issues but rage is a powerful thing as well like it’s very it’s a very very fueling thing a righteous anger is absolutely incredible so anger’s not necessarily a bad thing it’s just how it’s used or um yeah like interacted with so anyway uh that’s your pitters and then you have vata which i have like zero of all the tests like i do like zero zero which um it’s quite funny um vata is like tend to be lose weight quickly um so they tend to be of us like slimmer build um and taller um in general um they tend to have smaller features small eyes like kind of like a sharp nose that kind of thing dry skin um randomly pen tool with constipation just going to throw that one out there i feel like we’re all like really biased and trying to shape this this conversation to like i know right no no i don’t know but they also are extremely creative uh real good movers real good like just so you think it’s an there may be a correlation but it’s not causal let’s just say that’s a good one um but yeah and they they they just tend to be like a bit scatty as well like like all over the place and talk a lot they talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk yeah i think yeah creative people is like but you need to like when you catch them in that like you know that in their that they’re very like windy basically like if it even makes sense um so you would they can take you in into tangents and then you know just dwell in oh my god the tangents yeah sorry i’m just working with a lot of other people and you like ask them a question you’re like and half an hour later we’re talking about something completely yes yeah that’s so you that’s why like the kappa like kind of mindset of grounding and you know it’s like and plus with the pizza i think that you should you would work fantastically with other people yeah are we i mean whatever type you just have to understand what you’re working with peter are funny sometimes because they’ll give you like one answer or they’re like no yeah like okay so you’re a tough nut to crack oh my goodness yeah so sometimes i i can recognize myself in this and yeah sometimes tasha we she just maybe a bit more like she wants to elaborate and i’m like nope let’s yeah let’s get this is this is a dynamic pc can we can we you know and yeah so i totally relate okay yeah not to go on attention here but yeah go on with your so with the you say water kapha and pitta so these are the other qualities and then in terms of like fitness like how would you how would you kind of tie that in um right so like um like tends to attract like uh in life so what i mean by that is this kind of like how what’s called in yoga is one of the clashes so claesha and yoga are obstacles to us seeing and perceiving clearly and raga is known as desire or addiction and what happens is that with addiction and desires that uh when we have an imbalance we are drawn to things that take us further into imbalance um so it tends to be but not always what we are drawn to are the things that take us further away from balance so you know i i have like if i have uh some kappa people in my uh yoga class they might be the ones that like want to lie down and chill and close their eyes and fall asleep um and then like you know the pity people are like i want to like push myself i need to sweat i need to feel like i’ve uh stretched and worked out really hard i need to feel everything really strongly and the vata people are just like no they they they tend to just enjoy movement and and they might find it harder to um focus on like one thing one thing for a long time and do like um really slow progressions so they just want something new and something some like variety and something that they’re going to find new and interesting so yeah it’s that’s really stereotypical so people are obviously so much more complex than that but if we’re going to stereotypes then that’s uh that kind of thing if you tie in kind of yoga and crossfit how does how does he because if you think about yoga just in more the the physical activity part and you put crossfit together some people might think that not only are they like school of thoughts that potentially not don’t match you know like this one is like like you know just a lot of weights and like a lot of pressure on your joints etc and one is a bit more flowy or more uh grounded so yeah how how would you approach that so um there’s a few different things i would love to talk about here there’s one thing that i think that’s really interesting about crossfit um that really aligns it with yoga um and that’s a more of a uh my interpretation of crossfit and then necessarily because you’ve got crossfit which is the you know trademark sport slash training modality and then you’ve got what you could see as crossfit which is that basically being able to be adaptable to anything and that is something that crossfit coaches or people that are pro crossfit do talk about um so this is the more kind of philosophical side of crossfit which i really do enjoy um which is that i’m adaptable i’m training so that i can meet any situation and be able to um survive it or thrive in it um or defeat it if i’ve got more like you know gung-ho kind of attitude but that’s you know that kind of thing that um that in the crossfit games they’ll throw like random events at people and you know you just gotta get in there get stuck in and be able to survive um if not win um and the best athletes are the most adaptable and yoga i don’t like the word flexibility in yoga i prefer adaptability and i love the idea of being adaptable because then it takes the onus away from oh you can’t be good at yoga if you’re not flexible because flexible and adaptable like mean different things so some people can be very physically flexible but they’re not very adaptable with people they’re not actually physically adaptable as well as mentally or emotionally adaptable so that doesn’t make you good at yoga being flexible what makes you good at yoga is your your capacity to adapt and to focus um and i think that’s very aligned with crossfit in fact i think that um obviously how you train that adaptability is such a such a different way in many regards but there are some similarities as well which i’m going to get into but yeah that’s the main thing that i think aligns with them and then something that is not very well known i think in um modern perception of yoga is that you use weights in yoga it’s actually one of the reasons that i felt confident to start training people because my background is you know yoga and yoga therapy and obviously i’ve done um crossfit for however long and i’ve gone to some workshops and learning how to you know work with people and doing gymnastics and whatever but it’s nothing it’s more being like a hobby for me but like people kept on asking me to train them so the only reason i was like well i feel confident training because i know what’s safe for people’s body via doing yoga therapy because i’m a much softer version so i’m not going to you know get people i’m not going to kill people i don’t i’m not i have no interest in um destroying people’s bodies you know um so i’m going to probably be on airing on the side of caution it comes to some things um but you use so interestingly enough so varta people tend to be hyper mobile right so they have too much too much flexibility and one of the tactics and techniques you can use in yoga is giving them weights they hold static positions and you you wait and you load it um so they learn how to endure and solidify positions and build stability so you know that’s something that you can really do in a fitness modality as well is understanding is someone hyper mobile or are they restricted their mobility do i need to get them to do more um loaded work or more bodyweight work so it is you know similar filters that you can also lay over it’s just what really really makes the two things very different is uh the the breathing um and yeah the the kind of the linking that there’s no there’s not that same linking of breath and movement together so you don’t have the ability to really um go into these deep states of concentration although some people may say when they work out they get into a state of flow i would argue a state of flow is quite different from a seated meditation so um there’s that yeah um it’s interesting because as you as you’re describing the vata perspective of you know loading them with weights as they they are you know holding a you know um an arson i guess um it will force them not only to focus on the fact that there’s weight but they also have to you know bring themselves back to stillness so yeah it’s a good combo it’s a good compromise between what they they want and what they should practice what about pittas yeah um from a training kind of fitness approach so i find with pitters it’s a really a head thing of getting them to um stop competing all the time and to soften up a little bit and enjoy the journey so you know pitters generally are more like a type type people um where they want to be the best at everything um and they want to win and they want to conquer stuff right and they want to do things the right way and they want a really good structure um so it’s about like softening those edges and making them feel like it’s okay to suck at things and actually exposing them in a gentle way to things that probably they’re they’re not good at so they can kind of actually feel okay with being vulnerable um and and things like that so you know it’s not something i consciously tell them but it’s like um just trying to you know depending on who the type of pitcher they are excited it was really variable um like i have this one person that’s like so fixated on numbers so it’s like i do help them a little bit with their nutrition and stuff as well just like guidance like how how do i move them away from focusing on numbers and figures and doing things the right way to focusing on how things intrinsically feel like did you feel like you got a good workout did you feel um like in touch of your body how did the weight feel like what do you like when i write this person’s programming i i like often won’t put numbers uh for things i’m like go about you know feel it about 80 ish of what you think you can do or stop when you think that you’ve done the maximum that you can think you can do so it’s really making them engage with like what what their body feels like when they do things rather than like an outcome as such um but in terms of physical types you know like pitters tend to be like down the middle so you can kind of do quite a lot with them in general obviously and how would you like for for coffers for example like how would you approach um i think it would be like the opposite of like vatas for right really lovingly push them how would you do that how would that look first of all how does that look like really encouraging i think you know like um that’s why i mean i’m thinking about them in the context of a society as well because in the context of society is that they’re used to being told that how they’d approach things slowly or how they look like or how they feel like is wrong so i like to you know it’s really important to take that context into consideration so i i that’s why i say lovingly because it’s it’s about them still being established in their nature which is a very loving soft nature um but then letting them um but then giving them that kind of challenge and that push um because actually what they need to is to just to keep moving you know otherwise they can get really stuck so um what that would what would that look like i mean i think verbal cues mean a lot so how you know how am i talking to this client um how am i interacting with them um how am i making them feel like you know you have all this time between if you’re doing strength check training like rest periods right what do you do in that rest period do i just let them sit down and do nothing or do i keep them moving by doing a little bit of like gentle mobility work and i like how do i interact with them like in the conversations that you have in those recipes or all that kind of stuff like will contribute to you know how they perceive what they have to do whether it’s something that is unenjoyable enjoyable whether it’s something they’re doing because they love themselves or because they hate themselves and you know it’s there’s so many variables i could go on and on but yeah yeah just some examples yeah i think i mean being a cougher person i think i i resonate with that um explanation and also when i did crossfit i think that was one of the things about it that i found most enticing one is the community factor but also like they there’s a there’s there’s like a standard of what they’ll push you to but then the coaches are there the good coaches right they’re there to kind of uh nurture you in the process but also challenge you and know like on the days where you’re feeling kind of crap they they kind of check in with you and then say um uh okay like you can you can take it a bit more easier but on the days where they know you’re taking it easy but know that you should be pushing them yourselves they like come in and say no i see i see that you’re just like slacking off here like i have quite a few cappers in my studios um studio classes that come in and they’ll pick like weights that i think they’re nowhere near what they’re capable of doing and they they’re actually the strongest people in the class but they’re have lighter weights than some people that like pitters will pick weights that are above what they can do because they want to like show off and win right um i’m just thinking of like my dad and like how anytime like i was just doing like a jump rope like skipping the other day and then i was just like doing sprints by myself and he’s like that’s all you’re doing like i can do more than that i’m like i’m not competing with you right now i’m doing this for myself like he’s always on to like oh i can do more like such a bit and i see it so obviously now like he’s such a pitter person yeah i mean like toxic masculine energy is pitiful and crazy i mean that’s yeah um yeah so i think um what i can’t remember like how this uh segment started but basically what you’re saying is that i think you’re saying in class um with the good coaches that they they kind of pushed you and i think that’s that’s definitely what with my uh the cap of people that have come to my classes i’m just thinking of one in particular and that thing about lovingly pushing someone is just that you’re not saying like oh come on like you can do more like why aren’t you doing more in a kind of derogatory way you’re like dude you’re capable of so much more like you you are amazing why aren’t you fulfilling your like potential like you can do more and like getting them to be like okay i want to do it and and generally people love it when you push them in that way because you’re kind of bigging them up rather than like shooting them down and i was going to say like everybody needs a loving push i don’t think just because someone’s a picture or a partner they don’t need it done lovingly but i just think of cafes in particular need that extra kind of um consideration in some regards to kind of wrap that part up right um so maybe for kafas would you say like something that is uh intense but with going with the explanation you gave about pittas where you start slow you start with something intense and then like let them kind of slow down uh towards the end um i’m in my head i’m thinking oh coffers crossfit would be good for covers but with you know coaches that are probably guiding them um because they to to push them yeah um in that sense um and then maybe like when you were saying i think that maybe uh i don’t know if it works quite directly the same way like starting slow and then going faster i feel like you probably need to get probably stuck in because i think that um it’s almost like if if you take that slowly slowly approach them it might almost make it more difficult uh for some people to get into the mode of this is what that you’re doing um like it will start to i don’t know like i i don’t think i’ve ever started like that way around with anybody i think it’s more of a taking a consistent approach for them uh and being able to make sure that they don’t drop off because i mean the the tendency that you may see when people find it very difficult because they they have this kind of more of a chilled out nature let’s say but they don’t want to go so hard and so fast is that they may just be like oh like i’m just gonna this was this was too intense uh i don’t like it and i don’t want to do it again or i’m gonna stop and i’m gonna rest for longer than i need to so i think it’s more of like okay just get stuck in but go go at a steady pace like don’t feel like you have to keep up with everybody like just do you and whenever you need to like just take a small pause take a small pause but then get back into it so like you know saying if you’re doing like a conditioning kind of class or a hit class it’s saying like if you’re going to take a pause you know count count your pause take five seconds and count your five seconds and then go back to it and set that time don’t just let it go on and on and on because you know the typical kappa thing is you sit down on the sofa and then two hours have passed and you don’t realize that that time is gone because you’re just so chill that chilling is just like a natural thing right um so you need to set a limit on that rest time and be like okay we’re just gonna keep going and you rest as needed but you’re gonna like gonna set a limit on that rest time before you get back and do what you need to do awesome and kind of to close off our our conversation so what are three things you would like people to kind of take away in terms of yoga and physical health or physical activity okay these are the things i wrote down so yeah number one that physical health is usually an expression of something deeper not always but um you know nine times out of ten when i see people for physical ailments whatever there always is like an underlying mental emotional thing going on and and then also you know that there is you know it’s an inseparable interconnectivity between um our physical health and our kind of emotional psychological health so that would be number one uh number two we’ve kind of like uh touched on this already but you know it bears repeating um that yoga is not about flexibility and stretching um and it doesn’t matter like how outwardly good you are doing poses um it doesn’t mean that you’re good at yoga so you know don’t let the ig yoga picture perfect thing put you off like and i said to you i don’t like even like the word flexibility for that yoga so it’s much more i you know i would take i would much rather take a student who had the ability to focus over being able to do fancy poses because they are way more coachable they’re way more teachable because you know it is a skill to be a good student um and there’s some people that really really think they’re really good at yoga because they do really cool crazy poses right but in fact they can be way harder to teach so but yeah just don’t buy into any of that [ _ ] basically of what you think you need to be looking like in order to do yoga and yeah uh the last one is that yeah there’s always an entry point for whoever you are so if you’re a beginner or whatever there is going to be um something out there that works for you whether it’s yoga or training and a good teacher or coach will make you feel welcome and the training or practice will feel accessible if that coach is worthwhile okay so don’t feel like there’s something wrong with you if you go to a class and feel like i can’t do this it means that the coach didn’t provide the kind of environment for you to thrive in and that’s on them obviously like there’s there’s there’s stuff that we bring to the table as a student it always is but there’s no higher compliment as far as i’m concerned than someone who it’s it’s their first yoga class and they feel like it was accessible and good for them and they had a good class because you have all these classes i feel like that um people come away and feel like oh i can’t do yoga like i i couldn’t keep up and all that kind of stuff and and i just want people to know that who’ve had that experience whether it’s in physical training like you know fitness crossfit whatever or if it’s a yoga class that if you’re a beginner like you should be able to feel like what you’re doing is accessible um i even i think i wrote about this in a post the other day all my stories that even if a class is advertised as advanced vinyasa flow or whatever you still have a care of duty as a teacher to look after that person who’s come in accidentally into like their newbie or whatever they think that they can do it and actually it’s terrible for them because they have poor mobility or whatever it is um you still shouldn’t be leaving that class feeling like [ _ ] like i i unless you know like i say you have your own baggage that you bring to it but there is a care of duty that coaches and teachers have um to make things accessible so yeah those are my three awesome those are great tips i think it’s very mindful like makes people it’s not really about the focal point of like fitness but it’s about you know what you’re becoming the mindset you’re coming to fitness with right yeah thank you so much