Alastair Hay I Ep #21 | Approaching Respiratory Issues using Homeopathy

welcome to dartif the podcast um so alistair we we want to get right into it today i know we’ve got like lots of things we can talk about um but you know recently we uh guinea and i read a statistic that we found on the asthma and allergy foundation of america which said that about 25 million americans have asthma and this is equivalent to about 1 in 13 americans and the crazy statistic is also the fact that it’s more common in adult women than in adult men and it’s it’s so interesting because i mean i think goony and i can relate to some degree uh with our own experiences but is it is this something that you see in your practice as a homeopathic uh phys practitioner yeah i mean i do i do see lots of people who come with asthma to help to for me to help them with that um the statistics that you’ve just shared with me is something that’s actually new to me it’s not something that i’ve i’ve particularly focused on i still deal with it you know as and when it you know comes along but that’s a phenomenal amount of people yeah that have asthma uh i mean i’m i’m astonished it’s that many if i’m if i’m being honest that’s huge yeah definitely and and this is in the u.s it would be it’d be interesting to know how the uk kind of resonates to that amount um but i i think it would be somewhat pretty similar if we were to draw like you know lifestyles environment climate it’s maybe just more rainy rain it’s more rainy a little bit more yeah but i i personally kind of i’ve personally experienced asthma in when i was younger and so it started with with strong allergies like pollen allergies and um you know as as everyone during that season we’re all like okay it’s time to take the anti intake stamina in the morning first thing you do like as you wake up which is like you know not really the best feeling uh but then it just became worse and i started developing asthma and i actually didn’t know i was having asthma until i was uh always i was actually the symptom or i was always tired i was saying to them like oh i’m i’m exhausted i would fall asleep at school and i was just thinking i think it’s like just me being tired of me being a teenager right and to a point where it was affecting i think a teacher told me that i need to go and see a a doctor um because i was sleeping i was sleeping at in school and in class and so i did i did go to the doctor and he said you’re not you’re not breathing properly you’re actually and so then we did like tests etc and um i was i was severely asthmatic at that point and i didn’t even know and so um and so we started i they gave me the ventilating and i you know slowly became better and it was a recovery of only one or two years and then now i’m i’m pretty i’m pretty stable but i know that sasha like went through like experiences of asthma but in a very different context um it was interesting because my uh my asthma would show up when i ate different types of food and it would be cooling for me and like growing up i didn’t understand what that meant but i just like listened to the older people in the family right it’s like play too much mango or certain cooling like yogurt too much yogurt um and then that would trigger the asthma or if i had something that i was allergic to um it would start with like the sinuses and then asthma together and then i’ll have to go in for like the nebulizer you know at the the clinics and it was strange so when we moved from malaysia to america then um it kind of disappeared uh and our hypothesis is basically like you know the air was cleaner there and so then we had a better quality of air to breathe and naturally uh i got better um but yeah like it till today like if i do have allergy like if i have an allergic reaction reaction to food uh those are the symptoms that come up but on a general basis i don’t get it so it’s very interesting that guni like kuni’s experience is pretty different from mine um but you know both diagnosed with asthma right um yeah i think what’s also interesting is that by the sounds of things the medications were similar that you had things like uh ventilant to open up your airways you had some um anticipates didn’t use them response some people will also have a steroid based inhaler or even steroids that you take orally to reduce the immune response depending on the severity of it and depending on who the practitioner is but you know that they that as much as your symptoms are were quite different the medication was actually quite similar and yeah i find that fascinating do you see this like is this something that you commonly experience um in your practice as a homeopath you know well what we want to do rather than weaken an illness per se i mean it’s important to know what else someone has got but actually we’re working towards strengthening a person so in order to do that we need to know the person behind the symptoms so the individuality of those symptoms what makes them better what makes them worse how long they’ve had them for um when it first started um family history all these sort of things are like a a jigsaw puzzle of information that you create a picture with that and then i match that to a remedy that helps strengthen that that person so it is much more individual based rather than complaint based hmm and kind of drawing back to to tasha in my experience in in that sense where um her her reaction was mostly for you know was triggered through food and mine was triggered to poland um did you ever have like you know clients that came with asthma and and you kind of um giving them remedies that are slightly different from from one another absolutely you have two clients okay so two clients with yeah you would most probably and your and the thing you’d come with was i want help sorting out my asthma i guarantee you would have a different homeopathic prescription just because of how you’ve described what your asthma experience was like whereas if you took those symptoms to a conventional medicine uh practitioner chances are they will find out what you’ve got what’s it called it’s called asthma these are the medications for asthma rather than correct how is how’s uni guys how’s tasha yeah asthma right so the person the person behind the problem so that’s that’s that’s how you would look at it um differently uh who has got it as well as obviously what you’ve what you’ve got how it’s expressed in you whether someone is it’s sort of more spasmodic which is kind of how how yours was union and whereas with pasha it seems like you’re more in more gungy for one of a better fragments things like sinusitis your body will produce lots of mucus one of their phrases not great things to be talking about your face at all it’s like yucky mucus yeah that’s what your body would produce with grass whereas what uni uh asthma would do would be and stop yeah exactly yeah i don’t want to and actually they’re very dry symptoms of asthma but they’re expressed quite differently in in your circumstances in fact um a couple of cases that that i’ve got we could even refer to actually look at that very similar differential between one where someone’s much more spasmodic and someone where they’re much more gungy shall we say um and they and they needed completely different homeopathic medicines and they both got better um both women you know you mentioned about women being being more prevalent in women adults certainly in the states these are two cases that are in fact um adult adult women i think the first case she’d had it from from a youngster but had waited until now where she’s getting worse and worse thinking what more am i going to do um uh medication was suburban which is ventilating that she takes us and when she needs to she’s also taking a medication called foster which is a steroid and a long-acting ventilation type medication that she takes two puffs twice a day and um she described her asthma as being tightness in the chest um but also the sensation of feeling inflated so sort of both tight but also right i’m just trying to think you know almost like a a balloon that’s been inflated in a restricted place you know right um she said it’s actually hard to push the air out um it’s worse when she gets cold it’s worse when she exercises it’s worse with anxiety and emotions um like yourself unique she’s got a family history of allergies so there’s asthma in the family there’s excellent families rheumatoid arthritis in the family and i think an extended member of the family think was one of the grandparents that had tb so i then said you know tell me about your asthma and she said well it it happened within a couple of weeks of having a febrile convulsion as a charge had a very high fever um doing a a virus as a as a kid um and what she remembers is being attacked by animals in a graveyard while she was hallucinating this massive fever um she said it reminded me of the the i mean at the time she was she was before harry potter was around but it reminded when i saw the film harry potter she pretty much had a panic attack watching the film these dementors in in harry potter films oh my god that’s what it was like when i was when i was you know having this this hallucination she’s always been scared of the dark um sleeps with a night light on um in her room not on full light in the rivers the darkness affects her um so in quite a bit more about that what’s the thing about the dark she goes well you know it it just is um couldn’t really come up with any any as to why that that that might be um and the sort of during the consultation she just saw she was sort of kept feeling her neck when she was talking i said tell me tell me about your neck because there was this poor she goes i don’t know whether this is relevant she said but actually when i was born um i was born with the umbilical cord around my neck twice so basically when i was being born i was basically being strangled because i have no recollection of this but you know my mum’s told me about this and that sort of stuff is actually quite a traumatic experience you know are they going to live and that sort of stuff so she said i suppose there’s that sort of experience of actually your first experience of life is actually coming through this tunnel being strangled and you know she’s scared of the tubes scared of get a tunnel scared of the dark you know you think well that’s interesting i wonder if that is you know is is relevant um she asked about her food her diet nothing really remarkable apart from she loves lemons acid food so she’s allergic i like lemonade but proper lemonade it’s actually made with lemons um and so that ties like how did that tie back to her as well you know well the thing is there’s a homeopathic remedy that i prescribe it’s called stromonium it’s not you know a renowned remedy for asthma but this whole experience of being scared of the dark this sort of thing about light affecting her symptoms this sense of being strangled fear of tunnels that the spasmodic side of it meant that that was an appropriate remedy as far as i was concerned to prescribe foreign quite a low potency remedy of that to take frequently carry on taking her past my medication no i’m not going to stop that that would be a stupid idea um until such time she starts to get better then she can review that with the person who’s prescribed it and that’s ultimately what happened she had less and less anxiety she stopped grinding her teeth hope she was able to breathe more easily um and you know overcome her symptoms it’s an ongoing case so i’d probably say she’s about 75 better now six months down the line because she’s you know thirty how old did i say she was thirty two now she started having this when she’s about five three or five something like that wow that’s like a long time to live without a long time yeah so that’s very much the sort of the spasmodic side of stuff but but definitely you can see the sort of emotional thing behind that um and the family history as well so it’s probably you know quite deep um and great great great case where where you are making a helping someone make a difference to their symptoms over over a space of time in a manner that is safe and and do you like combined because like you when you were saying all this there’s a lot of like mental health aspect that you’re touching on as well right yeah um and so do you uh i guess uh suggest to them to kind of support the process of your homeopathic treatment with like external counseling or like therapy to kind of support the process of her healing and like getting better um absolutely i mean in this particular case she had seen as a speech therapist for for sorting that out if indeed she was still presenting with that i would possibly recommend that she saw someone like that could help that if she indeed wanted to do that more recently i’ve had clients for whom um it was the child i was dealing with and there’s quite a lot of anxiety in the family and and and the parents sort of were concerned about their own relationship and they asked if i would actually help them with that i said well actually i think what you need to do is see a relationship counselor and a really good one so that’s what they what they’ve done um rather than be saying oh i can do that actually we’ll actually let’s find someone who is actually more appropriate you know for that so certainly it’s really good to know practitioners who will do what you can’t recognizing what you know what you are very good at and recognize when someone else is going to be better than you even other homeopaths might have a greater speciality or greater focus on something um i mean very near me she used to be a midwife so there are certain cases where someone phones up yeah exactly and sometimes it’s a combination of all these different practitioners because as you were saying is that she’s been experiencing this since the age of five right and so yeah the acculation and just you know the lingering of these these feelings have you know indirect i believe have an indirect effect on your body so it touches so many different aspects of your health be as you said mental health or even just like physical health etc and so having like therapists or practitioners that kind of align together to be able to help her are quite is quite unique and and and having the maturity as a practitioner to say you know go have a word with her i think she should be able to help i think that’s that’s where you’re practicing the ultimate um service to to to your client so i’ll tell you about the other lady yeah well her symptoms are like because actually yeah that’s that’s i mean her medications are actually very similar but treatment very very different because the symptoms are quite different so another lady bit younger 27 um main thing she wanted sorted out was asthma but also said i’ve got ibs i’ve got qatar i get hay fever and i’ve got food intolerances what sorry i’m sorry not to interrupt you there but what’s qatar qatar gunge oh mucus guitar yeah that’s basically that’s basically that’s like a country doesn’t it yeah so basically i’m talking about you tasha yeah exactly spot-on are you sure you’re not talking about me directly well um due to the constraints of patient confidentiality yes right this is definitely not your case yeah um so she came to see me saying i’ve got a shortness of breath i get guitar which is gunge um symptoms are worse when she lies down so she’s using three pillows so she’s not sort of drowning in mucus as she put it uh she doesn’t like it when it’s these are good and charming charming that’s very good having their lunch or their dinner or their breakfast listening to this we probably have a warning at the beginning um yeah disclaimer yeah your lunch is at risk if you listen to this podcast um so so yeah sometimes when she’s lying down she doesn’t like when it’s hot when it’s stuffy um she needs the window open when she sleeps um and she i mean if it is stuffy she’ll have the um she’ll have a fan on sometimes of course there’s pollen outside she’s got hay fever so i’ve got out the window shut because that you know and it’s all this what’s the trade-off am i going to have the window open and get and get bunged up i’m going to have it shut and then be boiling hot oh my god um of course she’s bunged up she’s then her mouth’s dry in the morning having slept on her back with her with her mouth open she’s in a sorry state is this is this still you by the way we’re still talking about you how do you know such specific details were you like did you have to do like you know a stay-in consultation i’m telling you alistair i’m telling you this like window and fan and like you know dynamic is a thing that i’ve observed you know when i’m at her place i see this constantly and so i thank you for revealing this the mouth thing you know i don’t know i’m not judging i’m not saying anything about it i don’t know though because i can’t vouch for it because i’m sleeping so i don’t know if you wake up with flies in your mouth you probably have sorry go on so yeah there’s no judgment in these cases this is what people tell you um so but the thing is just you know dry mouth but she’s never thirsty she doesn’t feel thirsty he’s not a thirsty person ever she said she used to have extra as a child she grew out of it by the age of about seven using you know steroid medications that sort of stuff had to record his own but her asthma ever since about about seven other symptoms you told me about um she gets ibs again here we go diarrhoea alternating constipation hard or soft stool changeable i said you know how else would you describe it we’ll just say she said inconsistent i’ve got no idea how it’s going to be um hay fever in june grass pollens bunged up gummy eyes runny and blocked nose but oddly her symptoms better outside how weird is that that’s where the pollen is i go outside i feel better because far she’s controlled it’s not stuffy out there uh and she also gets these things called stars recurrent stars in her eyes where they get lumps and bumps and they get get infected so paper noise what else have we got about this lovely lady called uh called tasha um pretty much that’s fine pretty so far um she gets it started if she’s not drunk enough fluids so she knows she’s supposed to drink more but she’ll go so far not drinking i mean she’ll actually get urine infections i said what’s your favorite food because i love ice cream oh my god i love pastries i love cakes i love chocolate comfort food but i’m not great with fatty food because you have a camera in my house like is this what’s happening are you spying on me she said i can i can eat ice you know i love ice cream but it can make me sick and yes i do ice cream so much that i could actually so much it actually makes me sick she likes ice cream that that that much um she um i said how are you how are you feeling up up here by the way because well actually i i um i feel pretty pretty crap actually i i had to change my job recently due to a lockdown situation she said they they let me go let me go after lockdown um as did my partner he let me go during lockdown so um you know and she said i you know i feel i feel abandoned by my job by my partner um and that that feeling is another clinch of this particular remedy that i prescribe for her called pulsatilla um that’s quite a new case started seeing her june july this year but again harassment is improving the stability of her guts shall we stay is improving um and you know it is an ongoing case but certainly responding very well to the the pulse teller that i’ve i prescribed for her so guts asthma improving but also her mental emotional state having felt that you know all the things around you have just you know things that are important to you gone wow so two asthma cases two very different homeopathic remedies and two very different stories behind why they’ve got their asthma i suppose also from the outside and you might be thinking what relevance is whether someone likes ice cream got to do with whether you’ve got asthma or not um because it sounds a bit bizarre going off on those sort of sort of tangents but actually they are that that does tell us a lot about you if if that’s what you crave or this is what’s been going on in your life because if we’re going to prescribe something that’s working to strengthen a person we need to know the person behind it um and there might be nothing unusual about someone’s diet or what they’re craving there might be nothing unusual about someone’s sleep pattern and so on and so forth and you know in this particular instance then there were some very striking symptoms yeah definitely and um and in the allopathic world those two people and even for us like comparatively we were given the same thing yeah forgiven and systemic and the ventilation so worthy of note though that what you took uni did work it has had an effect in terms of you know opening up your airways and stopping you being allergic you know it has its place um it’s only way you’re not happy with that or you’re having unwanted right you might then see that you want to try something else but you know now that we’re having this conversation and i never really reflected upon like why how did i actually get better and uh now that i kind of you know look at what was the remedy or how what was yeah prescribed solution it was it was actually um i had to stay at home i had to sleep i had to um you know monitor my breathing and that forced me to stop and to to kind of remove the stuff that really actually kind of potentially created some sort of anxiety or some sort of stress that i was not acknowledging because really i promise you i had no understanding of why um that i had asthma literally i was oblivious about the whole process i was i i actually thought oh maybe i’m having an issue when i was when i walked 200 meters and i was kind of planting and i was like okay this is well i think there’s something wrong it’s only at that point i thought okay maybe i should go and see but i was you know i was completely you know i was like well this is not a thing i’m just like tired etc or something where now that i dig deeper and with all the stories you’ve been telling us i feel that it’s the the the rest factor that potentially helped me or the reset on on my own because there was a really therapeutical aspect of what they were asking me to do is like breathing through that because i had i was taught how to breathe through the ventilation so there was like this so i had to really breathe in and out in a very specific way so it’s like a semi like you know meditation yeah and so i think that really helped and i had to do this for seven days it was like prescribed so now that i really think about it i think maybe that was the real you know cure i don’t know yeah so that really educated your body how to breathe as well as doing the other things as well but that sounds like that was fundamental in in your healing journey yeah for sure i mean because we’ve got all this um i guess the case studies that you kind of shared with us um you know because in allopathy we prescribe the same thing to the same symptoms right so what what is the difference with uh homeopathy and allopathy in that in that respect i think that when you can see a different allopath or conventionally trained medical doctor with the same symptoms and they might have their favorite sort of medications that they that they go for to treat particular ailments but i suppose that the fundamental difference is that you know you mentioned about taking um antihistamines for instance for asthma words that the sort of medications that you have from a conventional medicine perspective tend to begin with anti so an antihypertensive to reduce blood pressure and antihistamine to reduce an allergy an antibiotic to get rid of a bacterial infection they all begin yeah i never realized that actually yeah and any other antioxidant and so on i’d love to think of some more but i can’t remember anymore um but they the the reason they begin with anti is they work against your body to get rid of your symptoms so you’ve got a symptom we’ll give you something that works against it to get rid of it whereas most other forms of healing or healing modalities what they what they do is they say well actually we can either weaken an illness or we can strengthen a person to overcome their symptoms and you know they they both have their have their place from my perspective some people would disagree but actually my feeling is actually you know it is your choice to choose which one how you deal with that but i suppose that the fundamental difference from a homeopathic perspective is we we we believe that symptoms are things that your body has made as a reaction to what’s going on symptoms come from inside out yeah so to strengthen the person means you can change the way your body has produced symptoms so the medicines need to change your reaction as opposed to having an action upon your physiological systems now the first time i heard about this wasn’t actually when i was trained to be a happy parent who was actually training doing doing physiology and pharmacology when i was at uni and there’s a guy saying you know when you have a fever he said you take something to reduce it which is called an antipyretic you know things like like um aspirin or something like that to reduce the fever because that’s not necessarily a good idea because your body made that fever to overcome the challenge your body’s actually making the fever as a defense to fight off an infection yeah there i am as a first year undergraduate studying physiology this is actually in a physiology lecture first of all and then you know he later taught us for pharmacology thinking oh my god these symptoms are like protection your body’s actually doing that as a fight back so it was my first viewpoint from a very scientific perspective that actually the medicines might not be as good as you think they are or we’re medicating too soon or actually your body’s trying to defend itself we might be wise not to ignore it or suppress it initially at least so that’s what i was thinking back then so that’s i think the first difference actually that you know your symptoms are ambassadors from within why is there something that we can do to acknowledge that and strengthen you so you don’t have to do that now sometimes you might think if your fever’s up there a massive temperature then maybe it is a good idea to do something about that i mean there was this lady we talked about yesterday she had she had a convulsion from her from a very high fifa um some people would argue that she doesn’t you know people that can happen even if you have given some antibiotics to reduce that but i don’t know the history of that particular case and she didn’t know either what how that was managed at that time she just remembered very vividly what happened when she had these hallucinations but hopefully that answers your question that difference between symptoms are from symptoms come from inside out so you want to strengthen the person or symptoms are things that you know happen to you and you want to get rid of them so you get rid of the disease that way that’s the i’d say the fundamental difference between how you treat someone from either a homeopathic or allopathic conventional medicine fashion yeah that’s that’s great actually that’s a great perspective too and insight to give so i guess with that being said right what are kind of three tools that people can take away with them um when it comes to you know approaching and a sickness or maybe like a symptom that they keep repeatedly seeing in their life in their day-to-day but no matter what they’ve you know uh taken or done uh it it’s it’s it still appears at different points in time what would your advice be to them and where would they start i think it’s worthwhile looking what was happening in your life i mean if you’ve got chronic complaints i was going for a long time what was happening in your life that means that’s what you’ve got now maybe what was happening in your life at the point it happened or even up to a couple of years before then you know what what has run you down i mean that’s what your body has to do in order to at least survive if not right that’s your you know why has your body done that if symptoms are indeed ambassadors from within why is my body doing this um you know i’ve seen people be have have chronic illness come on a couple years after a grief or a bereavement or bankruptcy and stuff like that which might appear to be completely unrelated but actually when you look back and so i saw someone last night for instance the situations that he’d been through where it was quite obvious that the mental emotional state he was left with meant that he had the physical symptoms sometime sometime later so look at where you know look at where your symptoms have come from you know it’s sort of you know why why am i having this but actually seek help ask someone else as i sometimes go what can i what can i do about this because it’s actually quite difficult when you’re in the woods to see the wood for the trees i have a homeopath people might think that’s quite strange i i as a happy path go and see someone else to help sort my symptoms out but they look at it from the outside in they can see the wood for the trees and they can help me be a better person and give you perspective right yeah that’s you know ask someone else’s perspective on something that is hopefully a a practitioner so the third thing what happens is you know if i’m taking a really complicated case where there’s lots of things going on i have to sit back and go what is it unless sorted out in this person is going to keep giving rise to problems where what is the soil in which these symptoms are built what is what is the thing that means unless that is is helped they’re going to keep having problems you might you yourself might not know the answer to that question but actually you might you might say okay you know if you’re looking up your symptoms or you’re trying to come up with a flower remedy you’ve got all these things going what is it if you have to use one thing that needs to change change that so you’re kind of saying yeah listen to your instincts sometimes yeah um what is your gut instinct what does your instinct tell you about the situation you find yourself in listen to it take some time and go why why what is that what is what is yeah your gut instinct that’s a really good instinct for a reason but we’re not saying self-medication right we’re saying listen to your instinct and um but we’re not some wonderful things you can do for medicating yourself but actually it is quite good to get someone else to help you get well again but then you know there’s some you can self-medicate with homeopathy i’d say if you’re already taking prescribed medications i would seek the advice of a professional flower remedies possibly let there’s less necessity to do that so things like batch flower remedies and so on and so forth although if in doubt get a practitioner out yeah that’s a good thing um yeah and and so ellis said we we like to like end our episodes with like rapid fire questions i’m not necessarily a rapid answer person so we’ll try we’ll try we’ll try okay let’s give this a go yeah in like one to two phrases or so right um maybe the first the first one can you tell us uh the worst health advice you’ve ever received in your life oh blimey um i don’t i don’t think i’ve really received bad advice personally i think that i’ve seen it in other people and thought what the um but probably the one i don’t just come to mind is actually my my brother when he was a baby he’s 12 years younger than me he uh you know my family’s got allergies as well we’ve not talked about my history oh my god loads of allergies my family this sort of stuff you’ve got nappy rash 12 years younger than me one phone the midwife and she said little trick for you get the white of an egg but not his bum that’d be fine acts as a little barrier this sort of stuff seemed like a good idea about five ten minutes later he starts to swell up and he can’t breathe he’s going into anaphylactic shock he’s probably soaking up the egg thing and actually this is not good so mom yeah no it’s not it is nuts you know see so so wow um i mean this was in you know probably about 1983 so you know quite a long time ago and uh that was the point where he could phone the gp gp jumps in his car bombs around slides his car into the driveway he said leave the front door and comes in epipen straight in buff and he’s only you know my brother’s absolutely fine this is probably the space of phoning him up to him turning up was probably five minutes that escalated so quickly yeah so so you know that’s that that was like you know and and he then said you know the gp said you know what what happened i said well you know the midwife said to do this i mean she’s probably found that that works in a lot of cases but actually she has no idea my family history is basically oh my god it’s egg oh my god it’s pollen oh my god it’s dust right yeah so it was it was probably very good advice for the wrong person she didn’t take she didn’t take the time you know yeah no i mean probably you know family thing they’ve done and it worked very well in other people it was not appropriate so so that was all right um yeah so so that that that that’s probably the one i would say oh my god okay our second question is if there was one habit we should all adapt what would it be first things brings my smile i think it’s not true yeah smile you know do you think smile smile smiles artsy smiles are to people as flowers are to humanity you know you look at you know it’s like you know smile is like the flower of our face well that’s a weird phrase but you know smile some people are miserable just smile if another thing i would say is actually if i could have two sure yeah go ahead um if you’re sitting in front of a mirror and you don’t like the reflection don’t change the mirror change yourself oh this is this is so cute like smile don’t change the mirror change yourself oh okay that’s that’s true these are really good answers yeah and thank you you might have to reflect i don’t know reflect on that you might have to think about that again yeah because that’s what we do we look around i don’t know why there’s a don’t like that it’s you that needs to change if you see the things that you don’t like actually if you if you can change you then you know that’s what it is so that’s that’s my slightly more profound thing than smile and the last but the light is one of them if you would you think this is the lightest one you you don’t know very well we’re getting to know you now so maybe you’ll find out otherwise so if you would put if you were to put a soundtrack or a song to your life what would it be well you said this was a lighter one um i i i i i actually listened to a track before before doing this interview because i’m a bit nervous and that sort of stuff and it’s a track by a band called scissor sisters i know who they are and it’s called and it’s called invisible light so it is about light it’s called invisible light but actually it’s it’s pretty banging it’s pretty upbeat that sort of stuff i did manage to i thought i’d see what the video was like on youtube i needed to verify my age to see this video oh my god oh my god it’s like it’s one of those one of one of those videos and right but i like you know for me why is why on earth could that be a soundtrack of my of my life the fact that invisible light is actually we as people if we’re shining if we’re happy then we are light beings if i’m being a bit out there you know and actually invisible like me it’s not necessarily seeing it you’re feeling it so that right now is the track of my life tomorrow might be a different track but invisible like scissor sisters that’s what i’m gonna go for nice yeah i like the explanation yeah and if you want to watch the video probably watch the clean version all right there you have it people so thank you so much alistair for joining us on our podcast and enlightening us with your humor today thank you it’s been an absolute pleasure thank you so much for uh drawing out my idiosyncrasies thank you thank you